Why is there no Delete Post button?
Thread poster: Hans Lenting
Hans Lenting
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Jan 18, 2021

e.g.: https://www.proz.com/forum/money_matters/348853-.html

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Stepan Konev
 
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Hmmm... Jan 19, 2021

So we think first before posting anything on the internet for the whole world to see?

 
Hans Lenting
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Educational effort? Jan 19, 2021

Novian Cahyadi wrote:

So we think first before posting anything on the internet for the whole world to see?


Do you think that Proz wants to educate us?


[Edited at 2021-01-19 21:58 GMT]


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Stepan Konev
 
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? Jan 20, 2021

Hans Lenting wrote:
Do you think that Proz wants to educate us?


[Edited at 2021-01-19 21:58 GMT]


I'm not sure what you're trying to say. In my own experience, it's pretty common for internet forum boards to not providing delete post function for their members. That's supposed to be the mods' duty. If anyone wanted to delete something they've posted out of regret, then perhaps think about it thoroughly before you hit the "Post Reply" button?

But then again, I am a boomer when it comes to the internet. I'm not familiar with today's social media culture where people just post whatever the heck they want and delete/hide them when things got out of hand.


 
Hans Lenting
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Like this Jan 31, 2021

In another forum:

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Stepan Konev
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Poor reasoning Jan 31, 2021

Novian Cahyadi wrote:
people just post whatever the heck they want and delete/hide them when things got out of hand.

This sort of reasoning does not make sense: you can easily edit your post to delete/hide 'things that got out of hand'. If I can remove any text from my post in 2 clicks, then why can't I delete the entire empty post?

[Edited at 2021-01-31 18:43 GMT]


 
Hans Lenting
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Recent example Feb 18, 2021

A recent example here:

https://www.proz.com/forum/translation_project_vendor_management/349342-agencies_that_post_projects_on_proz_when_you_are_on_their_books_and_they_are_happy_with_your_work.html

Lots of posts that only contain the text
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A recent example here:

https://www.proz.com/forum/translation_project_vendor_management/349342-agencies_that_post_projects_on_proz_when_you_are_on_their_books_and_they_are_happy_with_your_work.html

Lots of posts that only contain the text deleted.

Why not provide a button to delete posts?

Or, let the Proz portal software run a daily routine that removes all posts that only have the word deleted in their subject line.
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@Hans Feb 18, 2021

Hans Lenting wrote:
Why is there no Delete Post button?


Because it was Friday and the guy who programmed the ProZ.com forum wanted to go home?


 
Rachel Waddington
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Would that help? Feb 18, 2021

Hans Lenting wrote:

A recent example here:

https://www.proz.com/forum/translation_project_vendor_management/349342-agencies_that_post_projects_on_proz_when_you_are_on_their_books_and_they_are_happy_with_your_work.html

Lots of posts that only contain the text deleted.

Why not provide a button to delete posts?

Or, let the Proz portal software run a daily routine that removes all posts that only have the word deleted in their subject line.


If the posts in question were deleted and invisible, the thread as a whole would make very little sense. At least if the posts show up as having been removed readers know they are reading a conversation with some gaps in it and can draw their own conclusions from that.


 
Hans Lenting
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Sorry, I don't agree Feb 18, 2021

Rachel Waddington wrote:

Hans Lenting wrote:

A recent example here:

https://www.proz.com/forum/translation_project_vendor_management/349342-agencies_that_post_projects_on_proz_when_you_are_on_their_books_and_they_are_happy_with_your_work.html

Lots of posts that only contain the text deleted.

Why not provide a button to delete posts?

Or, let the Proz portal software run a daily routine that removes all posts that only have the word deleted in their subject line.


If the posts in question were deleted and invisible, the thread as a whole would make very little sense. At least if the posts show up as having been removed readers know they are reading a conversation with some gaps in it and can draw their own conclusions from that.


Re: "draw their own conclusions", I really had no idea what the poster of these deleted messages had written in the quoted thread. And I don't need or want to know. If he has to tell me something, he can write it. If not, I'm not going to bother to speculate.

I think that it all boils down to the question: who is in charge for someones postings? Should the user be entitled to withdraw her writings? I think that the user is entitled to completely withdraw what she has written.

However, others can quote parts or the whole of her writing. In that case, the right of the quoter has to be respected too .


[Edited at 2021-02-18 09:55 GMT]


 
Rachel Waddington
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I just meant ... Feb 18, 2021

Hans Lenting wrote:

Rachel Waddington wrote:

Hans Lenting wrote:

A recent example here:

https://www.proz.com/forum/translation_project_vendor_management/349342-agencies_that_post_projects_on_proz_when_you_are_on_their_books_and_they_are_happy_with_your_work.html

Lots of posts that only contain the text deleted.

Why not provide a button to delete posts?

Or, let the Proz portal software run a daily routine that removes all posts that only have the word deleted in their subject line.


If the posts in question were deleted and invisible, the thread as a whole would make very little sense. At least if the posts show up as having been removed readers know they are reading a conversation with some gaps in it and can draw their own conclusions from that.


Re: "draw their own conclusions", I really had no idea what the poster of these deleted messages had written in the quoted thread. And I don't need or want to know. If he has to tell me something, he can write it. If not, I'm not going to bother to speculate.

I think that it all boils down to the question: who is in charge for someones postings? Should the user be entitled to withdraw her writings? I think that the user is entitled to completely withdraw what she has written.

However, others can quote parts or the whole of her writing. In that case, the right of the quoter has to be respected too .


[Edited at 2021-02-18 09:55 GMT]


By "draw their own conclusions" I just meant that readers will be able to make better sense of whatever is left of the thread.

In some cases the disappearance without trace of significant posts might leave subsequent posters' posts looking a bit unhinged as the context for their posts is missing.


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.. Feb 18, 2021

Rachel Waddington wrote:
In some cases the disappearance without trace of significant posts might leave subsequent posters' posts looking a bit unhinged as the context for their posts is missing.

And the fact that the text of a post has been deleted is in itself potentially useful information.

Having said that, I would like a Delete button.

Dan


Rachel Waddington
 
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Yes Feb 18, 2021

Dan Lucas wrote:

Rachel Waddington wrote:
In some cases the disappearance without trace of significant posts might leave subsequent posters' posts looking a bit unhinged as the context for their posts is missing.

And the fact that the text of a post has been deleted is in itself potentially useful information.

Having said that, I would like a Delete button.

Dan


I accidentally posted something four times the other day when I couldn't get the quotation function to work. It would have been nice to be able to delete that!


 


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