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Fishy Email | Scam under Adecco's name
Thread poster: Lucie Genot
Lucie Genot
Lucie Genot  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
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English to French
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Jul 8, 2023

Hey guys,

I received a message this morning (Yes, on a saturday morning) via a profile on ProZ for an "article translation project".
The person is named Leonardo Greco. After checking their profile, I notice they claim to be in Germany, and their profile on ProZ has been created this month (July 2023)..
Answering their email, they got back to me with a @gmail.com address, claiming to be project manager for Adecco (super weird), contacting me for a big project for the c
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Hey guys,

I received a message this morning (Yes, on a saturday morning) via a profile on ProZ for an "article translation project".
The person is named Leonardo Greco. After checking their profile, I notice they claim to be in Germany, and their profile on ProZ has been created this month (July 2023)..
Answering their email, they got back to me with a @gmail.com address, claiming to be project manager for Adecco (super weird), contacting me for a big project for the client ListVerse.
Sent me a job detail, a google doc of the contract to sign and send back...
Did not even ask for a test, no NDA...
They wanted to me to start translating 2 articles, and they asked me to share my bank details, and I would need to claim expenses for their internal software (Ovizen is the name of the software) that I would need to upload the articles.
I tried finding them on LinkedIn, in vain. I got back to ProZ and their profile does not exist anymore.
I decided then to dig in more and call them out, telling them that I would need a licence to access their software, that they contacted me via a gmail address, that I wanted to have proof of their identity via LinkedIn, and that I found suspicious to ask me to work without even waiting for me to send the contract back.
To what our dear Leonardo replied that they sent me an official email, and that I had to check in my spam.
I did receive an email yes, from [email protected], but Gmail warned me saying that the message was not authenticated, hence the reason why it ended in my spam folder.
All those red flags stacking up, I obviously did not send any contract or information about myself, and I will obviously not start working on this translation project.

I just wanted to know if other people experienced the same recently.
That's a very fishy situation and I do not know if Adecco can actually do something against scammers who use their domain and identity....


Thanks a lot!
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Francesco Colonna
Elena Feriani
Maria Lisa Nitti
Jörgen Winther
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
 
Thomas T. Frost
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Portugal
Local time: 21:00
Danish to English
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Already debated over here Jul 8, 2023

See www.proz.com/forum/french/362908-attention_arnaque_quelquun_se_fait_passer_pour_un_employé_dadecco_en_suisse.html.

Clearly a scam. It's not difficult for a scammer to spoof a domain in an email, but the email will fail the SPF and other validation checks configured in the DNS records for the domain, which is why it ended up in y
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See www.proz.com/forum/french/362908-attention_arnaque_quelquun_se_fait_passer_pour_un_employé_dadecco_en_suisse.html.

Clearly a scam. It's not difficult for a scammer to spoof a domain in an email, but the email will fail the SPF and other validation checks configured in the DNS records for the domain, which is why it ended up in your spam folder.

In plain English, the domain owner has configured that only their own computers are allowed to send emails from their domain, so if someone else claims to send from that domain, Gmail and other email applications can see that the email was not sent from an authorised computer, so the authentication fails.
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Yolanda Broad
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Marina Taffetani
Lucie Genot
 
Natalie
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Poland
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Member (2002)
English to Russian
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Hi folks Jul 8, 2023

If you are talking about a 'Leonardo Greco', the profile has been removed - it was a scammer whose initial IP was Bangladesh.

Yolanda Broad
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Thayenga
Lucie Genot
 
Francesco Colonna
Francesco Colonna
Italy
Local time: 22:00
Member (2019)
Portuguese to Italian
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The same happened to me today! Jul 8, 2023

He is a scammer for sure and not among those more intelligent... Easy to detect...

Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Thayenga
Lucie Genot
 
Thayenga
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Germany
Local time: 22:00
Member (2009)
English to German
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Another mistake Jul 9, 2023

Lucie Genot wrote:

Answering their email, they got back to me with a @gmail.com address, claiming to be project manager for Adecco (super weird), contacting me for a big project for the client ListVerse.


Among other criteria, one mistake gives him away as a scammer. No agency will ever reveal their client's name to a translator, let alone to one with whom they've never worked before. Indeed, he's not a very smart scammer.

[Edited at 2023-07-09 10:35 GMT]


Liviu-Lee Roth
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Barbara Carrara
Lucie Genot
 
Laurent Di Raimondo
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France
Local time: 22:00
English to French
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SITE LOCALIZER
Newbie scammer... Jul 9, 2023

I come to believe there are newbies amongst scammers as well... 😉

Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Aurélien ARPAZ
Lucie Genot
Daryo
 
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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Portugal
Local time: 21:00
Member (2007)
English to Portuguese
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@All Jul 10, 2023

Adding to everything that has been said so far, I also wonder why Adecco would be interested in publishing articles on Listverse, a platform specialised in providing lists with fascinating, bizarre and obscure facts which, moreover, seems to me to only publish articles in English.

https://listverse.com/write-get-paid/


Thayenga
Barbara Carrara
Lucie Genot
 
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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Portugal
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English to Portuguese
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@All Jul 10, 2023

Look what I found on the Adecco website:

It has been brought to our attention that the ADECCO name and trademark has been used in several countries by persons who are in no way related to the Adecco Group. These persons place job adverts on general market websites using the name 'Adecco' without our permission.

https://www.adecco.co.uk/online-security/


Barbara Carrara
Lucie Genot
 
Kevin Fulton
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United States
Local time: 16:00
German to English
Newbie scammers Jul 10, 2023

Laurent Di Raimondo wrote:

I come to believe there are newbies amongst scammers as well... 😉


They need to start with easy targets like translators who are artists, creatives, and the like rather than business people whose business is, among other things, translation.


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Lucie Genot
 
Maria Lisa Nitti
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Italy
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Leonardo Greco [email protected] offering translation work for Adecco/Listverse Jul 12, 2023

Very suspicious. I agree with Lucie Genot. Seemed ok at first, but he was insisting on my collaboration even when I wrote I would be on holidays. They only wish to get your ID details and bank details
Careful everyone!


Lucie Genot
 
Lieven Malaise
Lieven Malaise
Belgium
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Member (2020)
French to Dutch
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Obvious Jul 12, 2023

I received two emails from this person on July 8th. The emails stated: "Are you available for article translation job?". That's it.

It boggles my mind that people even consider to reply to this type of obvious fake nonsense.


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Jörgen Winther
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Sweden
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His "Adecco" email is from emkei.cz - an email spoofing site Jul 12, 2023

I have had a dialog with Leonardo and when I told him that I didn't trust his identity, he sent me "the official invitation" from [email protected] as proof.

However, checking the exact contents of that email revealed that it was sent from a spoofing service - which is such a website that lets you send emails that appear to be from anyone you like.

"...
Received: from emkei.cz (emkei.cz [89.187.129.25])
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I have had a dialog with Leonardo and when I told him that I didn't trust his identity, he sent me "the official invitation" from [email protected] as proof.

However, checking the exact contents of that email revealed that it was sent from a spoofing service - which is such a website that lets you send emails that appear to be from anyone you like.

"...
Received: from emkei.cz (emkei.cz [89.187.129.25])
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So, just in case anyone may have been in doubt, this guy is not to trust.

Kind regards,
Jørgen
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Lucie Genot
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Lucie Genot
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United Kingdom
Local time: 21:00
English to French
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Not the "victim's" fault......... Jul 12, 2023

Lieven Malaise wrote:

I received two emails from this person on July 8th. The emails stated: "Are you available for article translation job?". That's it.

It boggles my mind that people even consider to reply to this type of obvious fake nonsense.



I do not think that it really matters that "people even consider to reply to this type of obvious fake nonsense", what matters is that we fight against all the fake ads out there, not to be scared that every person who approaches us for a project is a scammer......... Blaming people being scammed or almost falling for it is not really necessary, imo...


Jörgen Winther
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
 
Jörgen Winther
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True, but... Jul 12, 2023

Lieven Malaise wrote:

I received two emails from this person on July 8th. The emails stated: "Are you available for article translation job?". That's it.

It boggles my mind that people even consider to reply to this type of obvious fake nonsense.


I did get a similar request long ago - also regarding article translation for a set of blog sites. And it was genuine, and I worked for them for a while. Therefore, I wanted to at least check out what this new one was all about.

So, that's my excuse

[Edited at 2023-07-12 17:43 GMT]


Lucie Genot
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Mariko Itoh
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English to Japanese
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I received the same as below Jul 14, 2023

Thank you guys for letting me know about the spam.
I will try not to reply.

The message I received was as below.


[ProZ.com mail] Are you available for article translation job?

2023/07/14 Friday 16:21


A ProZ.com user visited your ProZ.com profile and sent the following message.
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Are you available for article translation job?

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Thank you guys for letting me know about the spam.
I will try not to reply.

The message I received was as below.


[ProZ.com mail] Are you available for article translation job?

2023/07/14 Friday 16:21


A ProZ.com user visited your ProZ.com profile and sent the following message.
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Are you available for article translation job?

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Author: Leonardo Greco
[NOTE: The author is not a registered ProZ.com user or was not logged in when sending this message.]
Author's IP address: 51.68.205.150
Message type: Request for quote
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