Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Nov 5, 2009 22:48
14 yrs ago
Spanish term
United States
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Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, English
perón
Spanish to English
Science
Botany
Mexican plants
Saltillo ganó fama en otros tiempos por su clima ideal, por sus frutas –perón y membrillo–, y sus cajetas.
Is this just "big pear trees"?
Is this just "big pear trees"?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +1 | apple |
Rick Larg
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| 4 +1 | pear apple |
David Hollywood
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| 3 | crab apple (Pyrus malus) |
Sheila Hardie
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Change log
Nov 10, 2009 22:44: Rick Larg Created KOG entry
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Ist ref (from Mexico) gives perón as "Pyrus malus L.v."
http://w4.siap.sagarpa.gob.mx/AppEstado/Monografias/Frutales...
2nd ref (and various others) gives "Pyrus malus L.v." as apple
http://www.pfaf.org/database/plants.php?Malus domestica
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Note added at 39 mins (2009-11-05 23:28:30 GMT)
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If it were to refer to Malus sylvestris, it would be a crab apple
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Note added at 43 mins (2009-11-05 23:32:31 GMT)
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One recipe (http://recetasdecocinatomo1.wordpress.com/2009/02/06/otra-de... gives
“Se pela y pica perón, pera, durazno, membrillo y granada: el caldillo se prepara con agua de canela, jugo de naranja dulce y la azúcar necesaria.” So presumably perón is not a sort of pear: “Perón y pera”)
http://w4.siap.sagarpa.gob.mx/AppEstado/Monografias/Frutales...
2nd ref (and various others) gives "Pyrus malus L.v." as apple
http://www.pfaf.org/database/plants.php?Malus domestica
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Note added at 39 mins (2009-11-05 23:28:30 GMT)
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If it were to refer to Malus sylvestris, it would be a crab apple
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Note added at 43 mins (2009-11-05 23:32:31 GMT)
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One recipe (http://recetasdecocinatomo1.wordpress.com/2009/02/06/otra-de... gives
“Se pela y pica perón, pera, durazno, membrillo y granada: el caldillo se prepara con agua de canela, jugo de naranja dulce y la azúcar necesaria.” So presumably perón is not a sort of pear: “Perón y pera”)
Example sentence:
First described and given a scientific name as Pyrus malus by Carolus Linnaeus in 1753, from plants cultivated in European gardens. The scientific name of the apple has a long history and has changed often; for many years it was called Malus sylvestris Mi
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Comment: "Thank you, Rick, and thanks to Sheila for all the good references, too."
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David Hollywood
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worked for int. orgs (IMF, OAS, IDB)
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
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pear apple
They're made from membrillo, guayaba, perón, (quince, guava, and pear apple) as well as other fruits, including mango and durazno (peach). ...
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Sheila Hardie
Spain
Spain
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Spain
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Works in: Catalan to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 2 more.
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crab apple (Pyrus malus)
I don't think it's pear apple, because that's Pyrus pyrifolia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrus_pyrifolia
As far as I can see, perón is Pyrus malus:
http://w4.siap.sagarpa.gob.mx/AppEstado/Monografias/Frutales...
Pyrus malus L.v.
So I would suggest you could translate it as 'crab apple' or 'wild apple';
Crab Apple (Pyrus Malus, L.) - [ Tradueix aquesta pàgina ]
Not a trace of this plant has been found where fruits of Mountain Ash have been found. It is a northern temperate plant, occurring Generally throughout ...
chestofbooks.com/.../Crab-Apple-Pyrus-Malus-L.html - Còpia en memòria - Semblants
botanical.com - A Modern Herbal | Apple - [ Tradueix aquesta pàgina ]
The Crab-tree or Wild Apple (Pyrus malus), is native to Britain and is the wild ancestor of all the cultivated varieties of apple trees. ...
www.botanical.com/.../apple044.html - Còpia en memòria - Semblants
pyrus malus - definition of pyrus malus by the Online Dictionary ... - [ Tradueix aquesta pàgina ]
Crab apple, a small, sour apple, of several kinds; also, the tree which bears it ; as, the European crab apple (Pyrus Malus var. sylvestris); the Siberian ...
onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/.../pyrus+malus - Còpia en memòria - Semblants
As far as I can see, perón is Pyrus malus:
http://w4.siap.sagarpa.gob.mx/AppEstado/Monografias/Frutales...
Pyrus malus L.v.
So I would suggest you could translate it as 'crab apple' or 'wild apple';
Crab Apple (Pyrus Malus, L.) - [ Tradueix aquesta pàgina ]
Not a trace of this plant has been found where fruits of Mountain Ash have been found. It is a northern temperate plant, occurring Generally throughout ...
chestofbooks.com/.../Crab-Apple-Pyrus-Malus-L.html - Còpia en memòria - Semblants
botanical.com - A Modern Herbal | Apple - [ Tradueix aquesta pàgina ]
The Crab-tree or Wild Apple (Pyrus malus), is native to Britain and is the wild ancestor of all the cultivated varieties of apple trees. ...
www.botanical.com/.../apple044.html - Còpia en memòria - Semblants
pyrus malus - definition of pyrus malus by the Online Dictionary ... - [ Tradueix aquesta pàgina ]
Crab apple, a small, sour apple, of several kinds; also, the tree which bears it ; as, the European crab apple (Pyrus Malus var. sylvestris); the Siberian ...
onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/.../pyrus+malus - Còpia en memòria - Semblants
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