Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

grupos cerrados

English translation:

the organization of private events and groups, and of organizational conventions.

Added to glossary by Magdalena Rasquin (X)
Dec 11, 2009 02:41
14 yrs ago
Spanish term

grupos cerrados

Spanish to English Marketing Tourism & Travel eventos corporativos
Una empresa de viajes que ofrece organizar eventos corporativos. Quizás no sea “closed groups” ya que en Internet no lo veo aplicado a corporaciones.¿será tal vez close/d corporations? Aquí el contexto:
Organización de eventos corporativos: desde lanzamientos de productos, jornadas de trabajo, congresos Oficiamos de coordinadores locales en todo lo referente a la organización de eventos privados, convenciones institucionales y *manejo de grupos cerrados*.

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Spanish term (edited): la organización de eventos privados, convenciones institucionales y manejo de grupos cerrados.
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the organization of private events and groups, and of organizational conventions.

I think that the original was carelessly drafted, and that "eventos privados" and "grupos cerrados" refers to the same thing. This is my suggestion for resolving the redundancy, and thus improving on the original.

Sometimes you can wrack your brains over issues like this until you realize that the problem is with a sloppily written original text.

I do not know that this is the case here, but I strongly suspect that it is. If not, I would challenge other responders to meaningful differentiate between the two terms. We can then see if whatever solutions thus generated are more plausible than what I am suggesting.

Suerte.

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Note added at 17 mins (2009-12-11 02:59:19 GMT)
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CORRECTION:

the coordination of private events and groups, and of organizational conventions.

[to avoid ugly repetition of "organization....organizational."


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Note added at 18 mins (2009-12-11 03:00:52 GMT)
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Or, possibly, even "large conventions."

I don't think that "institucional" has any specific meaning here, and that the events in question could be corporate or professional in nature, or perhaps those of non-profit entities.

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-12-11 04:12:00 GMT)
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Stated otherwise, I believe that the "eventos privados" and "grupos cerrados" belong to one and the same semantic unit.
Peer comment(s):

agree Ventnai : yes, private is the word
6 hrs
Right: I think that "private events" and "private groups" refer to a single type of service, and therefore should be lumped together. Thank you, Ian.
agree Fiona Hale
18 hrs
Thank you, Fiona.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "you´re right, Robert, thanks"
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exclusive groups/party events

:)

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Note added at 7 mins (2009-12-11 02:49:25 GMT)
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I think "exclusive groups" might cover it :)

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Note added at 11 mins (2009-12-11 02:53:14 GMT)
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maybe "private functions"
Note from asker:
thans, David
Peer comment(s):

agree yolanda Speece : private events
3 mins
agree Emma Ratcliffe
1 hr
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22 mins

private/small group (events, meetings)

another option
http://www.museumofflight.org/private-events
Private Group Events and Meetings: We welcome the opportunity to serve the community by allowing private event use of the Museum.
Note from asker:
gracias, Remy
Peer comment(s):

agree Rafael Geronimo : Me gusta esta definicion
2 hrs
¡muchas gracias Rafael!
agree neilmac : This is what sprang to mind before seeing the suggestions :-)
7 hrs
¡mucha gracias Neil!
agree Clare Hogg : nice
9 hrs
¡muchas gracias Clare!
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1 hr

Closed Group

Esta es la traducción apropiada. Un "closed group meeting/party/event"
es un evento donde no se permite la entrada de nadie después que el evento comienza. No es necesariamente privado, solo indica que no se permite la interrupción del mismo por personas que llegan tarde.

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An open group is one in which people are allowed to come and go in the group as they desire with no commitment for regular attendance.


A closed group is one in which the people make a time commitment to attend all meeting and no additional people are allowed in the group once it is formed for a specific period of time (like 6 months) or until the group size decreases to a certain minimum number like 8.

http://www.community4me.com/faq_smallgrp.html
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closed group,
(in psychotherapy) a group in which all members are admitted at the same time and vacancies that occur in the membership are not filled.
Mosby's Medical Dictionary, 8th edition. © 2009, Elsevier.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Closed group
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Note from asker:
thanks, Gilberto
Peer comment(s):

neutral Robert Forstag : Your references bear absolutely no relevance to the tourism/travel context of the posted query, and the term "closed group" would never be used in such a context.
1 day 12 hrs
Thanks for your opinion. However, I have attended several meeting/conferences where nobody is allowed to enter after the speaker has started, and they all have been denomiated as closed conference or closed group meetings. Have a great weekend.
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private functions

I see why you post this, because the forementioned 'eventos privados' seems to cover it (and I agree with Robert's comments). I toyed with 'invitation only' but all the groups could be restricted in this way. Anyway, unless you incorporte it under the first 'private events' here is my suggestion - it does seem to be in contrast to 'corporate'
Note from asker:
thanks!
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