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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

hoya

English translation:

depression

Added to glossary by Emma Goldsmith
Sep 28, 2010 16:38
13 yrs ago
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Spanish term

hoya

Spanish to English Science Geology volcanoes
This is an information brochure for tourists on the geography and history of La Palma (Canaries), with a lot of references to its volcanoes. UK English.

El núcleo de Los Canarios aprovecha una gran ***hoya*** en la dorsal de Cumbre Vieja, cuyo pinar rodea el pueblo por la vertiente norte. A la ***hoya*** la cierra por el sur el volcán de San Antonio.

I was wondering about "valley" but I think there may be a more precise technical term for "hoya" in this context.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Proposed translations (English)
4 depression
4 +1 (river) basin
4 pit
3 hollow
3 trench
3 trough
2 crater
References
Photo

Discussion

Emma Goldsmith (asker) Sep 30, 2010:
Feedback as promised: "Depression" has been recommended because it means any sunken landform http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depression_(geology) and this would be valid as a translation of hoya according to DRAE: "Concavidad u hondura grande formada en la tierra" http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/SrvltConsulta?TIPO_BUS=3&LEMA=
In actual fact crater and caldera are also probably OK, but they are more specific, and have their equivalents in Sp and Eng.
Thank you all very much for your help.

Note to Deb, Fionn and Leonardo: you all suggested "depression" at some point, so please feel free to add this as an answer to get the points!
Emma Goldsmith (asker) Sep 28, 2010:
Thank you everyone for all your ideas I'm going to ask my client and maybe I will be able to report back better informed :)
Bubo Coroman (X) Sep 28, 2010:
at first I thought... the "hoya" must have raised sides that protect the village from the wind (the reason the site was chosen), but having seen the photo I think it's more a case that the "hoya" doesn't have these raised sides, and that the reason the village is where it is, is that the "hoya" was the only land around that was reasonably flat and large enough to site a village.
Bubo Coroman (X) Sep 28, 2010:
meant to post a photo link here but it ended up as a Reference!
Leonardo Lamarche Sep 28, 2010:
Emma,Agree. Que tal "large depression" Saludos.

Proposed translations

2 days 6 hrs
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depression

Well... you did say! Can't you split the points?
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I'm glad someone offered it in the end :) I agree, points should be split... but it's not allowed http://www.proz.com/faq/2869#2869 (point 2.19) Thanks, Fionn"
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15 mins

(river) basin

Hoya, cuenca, concavidad u hondura grande formada en la tierra.

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoya
Peer comment(s):
neutral philgoddard : I don't think there are any significant rivers in the Canaries, though basin would be OK.
1 hr
agree Edward Tully : By far the most commonly accepted term in geography.
2 days 6 hrs
Thanks Edward!
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6 mins

hollow

this might be more accurate

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Note added at 22 mins (2010-09-28 17:00:42 GMT)
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A hollow is a depression or small valley surrounded by mountains. This is not necessarily related to volcanoes, but the text describes the hollow being at the other side of the "old summit" or "old peak" and closed off on the other side by the volcano. It doesn't describe a feature of a volcano, but places the hollow between the volcano and another mountain, with, apparently, the town situated somewhere in the midst.
Note from asker:
Thanks Juan. Please could you explain why you think this might be more accurate in the context of volcanoes?
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57 mins

pit

a large pit.
Mi sugerencia.
Note from asker:
Thanks Leonardo. However, there are several villages inside this "hoya" and that makes "pit" sound rather small.
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1 hr

trench

it runs along the dorsal, in a line, and is closed at the end by the volcano....
Reference:

http://www.wordmagicsoft.com/dictionary/es-en/hoya.php

Note from asker:
Thanks Dr Neil. I'm always a bit wary of wordmagic though.
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2 hrs

crater

not really sure, but could be - the word seems to be used for craters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbre_Vieja

Stock Image: Crater of Hoya Negro, volcano at La Palma, Spain.
Crater of Hoya Negro, volcano at La Palma, Spain. Erupted in 1949.
www.dreamstime.com/item.php?imageid=13000381 - Cached
Note from asker:
Thanks Rachel, I was wondering about this possibility and had already read the wikipedia page. Let's see if anyone else agrees with you :)
Peer comment(s):
agree Bubo Coroman (X) : I agree it's best to go by pictures or descriptions of the actual place. Along with crater I'd consider depression.
26 mins
Thank you Deborah - sometimes essential - yes, could be depression
disagree fionn : I'd be very cautious about this, it would imply the village is either inside the crater of a volcano (extinct or otherwise) or inside an impact crater from a meteorite...
43 mins
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1 hr

trough

This is a common geographical term for a large, deep valley-like feature.
Another option would be a depression.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2010-09-28 20:04:09 GMT)
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Alternatively, if it's clearly volcano-related, the correct term may well be a 'caldera' - which is a large valley formed by the collapse of a volcano system.
Note from asker:
Thanks Fionn
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Photo

Please see the topmost photo here... http://www.islalapalma.com/en/places/fuencaliente.html?p=los...

...it shows how, as in your text, "a la hoya... la cierra el volcán de San Antonio". (the shallow "hoya" of the village falls away into the crater). It seems logical that the "hoya" is not very deep otherwise it would not have served as a suitable site for the village. The best I could come up with for "hoya" is "depression" as in my agree to Rachel's answer. The reason I agree with Rachel is that she's the only answerer so far who's taken the trouble to research the actual site of the village which I think is essential otherwise one is guessing in the dark.
Note from asker:
Thanks very much for your help, Deb. You were right that depression was the best possibility because, like hoya, it doesn't refer to a specific volcanic landform, but one with any cause. The photo was great! Sorry I couldn't split the points :(
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree Rachel Fell : good link:-)
33 mins
thanks Rachel! - Deb
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