May 6 10:48
13 days ago
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French term
United Kingdom
MA French and Arabic Translator
Native in: English 
Works in: Arabic to English, French to English
purs
French to English
Art/Literary
Poetry & Literature
Canadian children's sci-fi book for 8-13 year old reluctant readers
There's a passage describing two characters who don't get on with the protagonist, in which it says 'Swan et Sunny sont des Alphas, des purs.' - I've had a look on Google and 'alpha pur' does seem to be a term that's used, but in some potentially dodgy incel rhetoric. I'm therefore wondering if translating 'des purs' as something like 'pure and simple' would be better, but would love some insight if anyone else knows how this term is used.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Proposed translations
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| 4 +6 | through and through |
Philippa Smith
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| 3 +3 | they're proper Alphas |
Lisa Barrett
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| 4 +1 | the pure ones/true exemplars |
Sakshi Garg
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| 4 | Apex alphas |
Andrew Bramhall
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| 2 | in pure form |
Andrzej Ziomek
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Proposed translations
+6
1 hr
Philippa Smith
Native in English
Works in field
29 years turning out perfect English
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English
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through and through
As in "Swan and Sonny are Alphas through and through"
I found the book (I've added the link) and see that they're from a planet called Alpha, the narrator explains how s/he isn't and that these two Alphas look down on everyone else - important information!
One among many alternatives: "100% Alpha"
I found the book (I've added the link) and see that they're from a planet called Alpha, the narrator explains how s/he isn't and that these two Alphas look down on everyone else - important information!
One among many alternatives: "100% Alpha"
Note from asker:
| Thanks! That was what I thought. |
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
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Thanks writeaway!
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Emmanuella
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Merci Emmanuella !
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Lara Barnett
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Thanks Lara!
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Daryo
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Thanks Daryo!
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Mark Nathan
: Or perhaps "typical Alphas". // Yes, I guess we need a bit more context.
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Thanks Mark! Don't know if "typical" would work as it implies all Alphas have a superiority complex - which maybe is the case here, but maybe not = they are 'real' Alphas, born and bred.
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Yvonne Gallagher
: it would also work as "through and through Alphas"
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Thanks Yvonne!
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Mpoma
: Young people simply don't use this expression any more, ever. And this is a children's (or "young adults") text
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Oh really? Not ever? So when I hear my own young people using it I'm just dreaming right? ;-)
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Cyril Tollari
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Thanks Cyril!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
+1
10 mins
Sakshi Garg
India
India
Native in French
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English
India
- Because every word matters
Native in: English (Variants: Scottish, South African, US South, Canadian, UK, Irish, Indian, Jamaican, US, Australian, French, Wales / Welsh, Singaporean, British, New Zealand) , French
the pure ones/true exemplars
It suggests that the characters, Swan and Sunny, are seen as quintessential or ideal types of a certain category, in this case, "Alphas."
It conveys a sense of purity in their characteristics or roles, emphasizing their embodiment of certain traits to an unadulterated degree.
I came across this article wherein there is a use of this phrase:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Pure_Ones
It conveys a sense of purity in their characteristics or roles, emphasizing their embodiment of certain traits to an unadulterated degree.
I came across this article wherein there is a use of this phrase:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Pure_Ones
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: You should cite the source of your answer if you didn't write it yourself.
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I have already provided the reference, please check that, thanks.
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Thigui Onesime
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Thank you, Thigui!
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Andrew Bramhall
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
Flair and accuracy tailored to your text
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
Apex alphas
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: It's not alpha as in alpha male.
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Yeah, thanks Phil;
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Daryo
: Might sound plausible on its own, but if you check this https://www.calameo.com/read/001698429fb993542ef52 you might see it differently.
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Yeah, thanks Daryo!
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Lisa Barrett
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Fr>En Translator, Culture and Tourism
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: French to English
they're proper Alphas
Given the age group of the readership, I thought this might work.
Or, they're total Alphas.
Or, they're total Alphas.
Peer comment(s):
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Mpoma
: Far more idiomatic and appropriate to the age group
7 days
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Thanks, Mpoma.
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Philippa Smith
: Nice!
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Thank you!
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Cyril Tollari
12 days
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Andrzej Ziomek
Poland
Poland
Poland
Jack of all trades Master of translation
Native in: Polish
Works in: English to Polish, Polish to English
in pure form
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Discussion
http://www.calameo.com/read/001698429fb993542ef52