Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

raccogliendone il riflesso della superficie della Terra

English translation:

receiving/gathering its reflection from the Earth's surface/from the surface of the Earth

Added to glossary by Paul O'Brien
May 14, 2008 18:58
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Italian term

raccogliendone il riflesso della superficie della Terra

Italian to English Other Astronomy & Space
"un radar a bordo di un satellite emette impulsi di radiazione luminosa nella lunghezza d’onda delle microonde, raccogliendone poi il riflesso della superficie della Terra".

i'm not sure i understand what's happening here. "della" is throwing me off.

TIA for any clarifications.

Discussion

Mirra_ May 14, 2008:
I totally agree with Monica :))
Monica Varvella May 14, 2008:
Thank you very much!
Paul O'Brien (asker) May 14, 2008:
excellent monica. good job kid.
Monica Varvella May 14, 2008:
I do think its reflection. The radar collects the reflected light coming from the Earth's surface. In my opinion, they use the singular because they are meaning "il riflesso degli implusi" where " degli impulsi" is included in the term "ne".
Paul O'Brien (asker) May 14, 2008:
yeah, they've given me a lot of leeway. BTW, they use the singuloar "reflection" despite having previously said ""impulsi". it's okay in english too.
Mirra_ May 14, 2008:
invece
13.200 per "radar reflection".
http://www.google.it/search?hl=it&q="radar reflection"&btnG=...

But...
How it happens you can change the original text you're translating?? :))
Mirra_ May 14, 2008:
mmm reflection (reflectionS if you say 'their') seems far more common

Risultati 1 - 10 su circa 1.650 per "radar reflectance". (0,12 secondi)
Forse cercavi: "radar reflection"
http://www.google.it/search?hl=it&q="radar reflectance"&meta...

Paul O'Brien (asker) May 14, 2008:
phew! i thought i was going mad. how does "gathering their reflectance from the earth's surface" sound?
Mirra_ May 14, 2008:
I can believe it, since I'm quite convinced it's a typo for 'dalla' :)) Also, because othwerwise how would it possible to explain that 'raccoglienodoNE' ? ...

Proposed translations

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catching/gathering its reflection from the Earth's surface

I think it could be so...
but before-dinner ipoglicemy makes me uncertain...

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ooK it's not so weird after all... :)

http://www.google.it/search?hl=it&q=gathering its reflection...

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also 'collecting/receiving'

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that stupid Nasa researchers... How do they dare say 'collect'???

"Unlike other sensors that passively sense radiation from targets illuminated by the Sun or thermal sources, radar generates its own illumination (hence, it is active; another example is the flash camera) by sending bursts or pulses of EM energy that reflect off of a target. A fraction of the reflected energy then returns to the radar’s receiving antenna, which collects it and passes it to an electronic processing system"
http://rst.gsfc.nasa.gov/Sect8/Sect8_1.html

"Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) refers to a technique used to synthesize a very long antenna by combining signals (echoes) received by the radar as it moves along its flight track. Aperture means the opening used to collect the reflected energy that is used to form an image."
http://southport.jpl.nasa.gov/desc/imagingradarv3.html


and many other evidences of people not able to write properly in English...

"antenna array shall be placed within the device on top of all other circuit boards in such a manner that no other materials or devices block the antenna's ability to collect microwaves from outside the unit. "
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6950053.html

"During the collection of the SAR (radar) data, Magellan's radiometer also passively collected radiated thermal microwave energy data, used to create the Global Emissivity Data Record (GEDR) data set. "
http://www.mapaplanet.org/explorer/help/data_set.html

I could continue so on and so on
but I hope that now it is fairly clear that 'collect' is very often used to describe the SAR principles.
Even those idiot at ESA say so ;D
"The MWS is a passive receiver that collects radiation reflected by the oceans at frequencies of 23.8 GHz and 36.5 GHz."
http://earth.esa.int/brat/print/missions/ers1/instruments/mw...

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idiotS :)

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so nice of you... ;D
Peer comment(s):

agree Monica Varvella : also "collecting its reflection from the Earth's surface "... and by the way, I also think that the first "della" in the sentence is a typo.
3 mins
thank you very much! :)
agree Olga Buongiorno
18 mins
grazie molte! :))
agree Maverick82 (X) : You're gorgeous Mirra, just gorgeous! :-D
20 mins
ehiiiiiii (blushing) thankZ! :))
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "mirra got in first."
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receives the reflection from the surface of the earth.

"A radar aboard a sattellite emits electro magnetic radiation in the micro-wave, wave band (emitis micro-wave light radiation) and then receives the reflection from the surface of the earth."
Its just straight ordinary radar Paul, same thing that a bat does with sound. I should just say receives in English. Ever seen your radio jump up an capture the radio waves or go for a walk and collect them? Finally, microwaves are not in the visible range, they are not "light", you can't see them except on a radar screen.

Remote Sensing

* Radar uses microwave radiation to detect the range, speed, and other characteristics of remote objects. Development of radar was accelerated during World War II due to its great military utility. Now radar is widely used for applications such as air traffic control, navigation of ships, and speed limit enforcement.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave

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Monica, in English, light is only that part of the spectrum which enters the eye and stimulates the retina, or which Newton considered in his prisms. The rest is just different wave bands of electromagnetic radiation.

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Gather signals, and gather waves yes.

A radar receiver detects and often analyzes the faint echoes produced when radar waves bounce off of distant objects and return to the radar system. The antenna gathers the weak returning radar signals and converts them into an electric current. Because a radar antenna may both transmit and receive signals, the duplexer determines whether the antenna is connected to the receiver or the transmitter. The receiver determines whether the signal should be reported and often does further analysis before sending the results to the display. The display conveys the results to the human operator through a visual display or an audible signal.

http://encarta.msn.com/text_761569568___44/radar.html

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For other uses, see Light (disambiguation).
A beam of white light (entering upwards from the right) is dispersed into its constituent colors by its passage through a prism. The fainter beam of white light exiting to the upper right has been reflected (without dispersion) off the first surface of the prism.
A beam of white light (entering upwards from the right) is dispersed into its constituent colors by its passage through a prism. The fainter beam of white light exiting to the upper right has been reflected (without dispersion) off the first surface of the prism.
Wiki, which I agree with, but qualified:
"Light, or visible light, is electromagnetic radiation of a wavelength that is visible to the human eye (about 400–700 nm). In a scientific context, the word light is sometimes used to refer to the entire electromagnetic spectrum.[1] Light is composed of elementary particles called photon."

The word light is sometimes used to refer to the whole of the electromagnetic spectrum but, I would say only when talking about relativity in English and the "speed of light".


Image of two people in mid-infrared ("thermal") light (false-color)
Image of two people in mid-infrared ("thermal") light (false-color)

For example infrared electromagnetic radiation is often referred to as heat, rather than light. It is just a different use of words.
Wiki again, which I agree with.

Infrared (IR) radiation is electromagnetic radiation whose wavelength is longer than that of visible light, but shorter than that of microwaves. The name means "below red" (from the Latin infra, "below"), red being the color of visible light with the longest wavelength. Infrared radiation has wavelengths between about 750 nm and 1 mm, spanning five orders of magnitude. Humans at normal body temperature can radiate at a wavelength of 10 microns.[1]

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It is common to talk about infrared light and ultraviolet light because they border on the visible spectrum.
However to talk about microwave light is a little unusual.
This guy puts it in inverted commas





Microwave Metrology for Nondestructive Evaluation

Electromagnetic energy propagating at microwave frequencies can be dealt with in many respects in a manner similar to that of visible light. The principal difference between visible light and microwave "light" is that microwave wavelengths can be between 1,000 and 10,000 times longer than the wavelength associated with visible light.




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I wouldn't say "do not count" rather than are not usually referred as by physicist. You can call them "pulses" (impulsi), but again it is more usual to call them "signals" in radar technology. Apparently there's a similar word in German which got translated as "instinct" in the first translations of Freud, which led people to think they were inherited. Nothing to do with light of course.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_aperture_radar
Fascinating stuff. Remember when I went to see a holograph exhibition at the Royal Academy of ArtLondon when they had just been invented.
I take back what I said about pulses.
Note from asker:
"gather" is a legitimate term in context.
they claim in this document that there are visible forms of light and others which are non visible (i.e. infrared and ultraviolet).
i've taken your point and will refer to "microwave electromagnetic radiation", inserting a note to the effect that, in english, microwaves do not count as "light" as such.
or "microwave electromagnetic radiation pulses".
ok on the "receive" thing. what you say makes good linguistic sense.
looky here. the radar in question is a SAR and it says at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_aperture_radar that "SAR is fundamentally very similar to holography with microwaves instead of light". happy?
okey doke.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Monica Varvella : I'm sorry, but microwaves belong to the light spectrum, so they can be called light even if they are not in the visible range. ... Well, no need to argue on this point with my English speakers colleagues; in the scientific community they are the same
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Not as taught in schools in the UK Monica, but maybe in Italian it is referred to as part of the light spectrum, Follow the link and look. I thought I had already put it up. In English this is the electromagnetic spectrum. Contd. above.
neutral Mirra_ : I proposed 'receive' before you did. BTW, please, *Italian*, not 'italian'. Thanks :)
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You are perfectly correct Mirra. Now that I have looked. Paul if you don't give her the points, I'll erm. well if I say never speak to you again, then you'll probalby give them to me.
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catching the reflection of the Earth's surface

Catching the light coming from Earth by reflection of its atmosphere-surface
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