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English term or phrase:
But the old Gallic machismo dies hard
French translation:
mais le bon vieux machisme gaulois a la vie dure
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Feb 26, 2013 17:26
11 yrs ago
English term
But the old Gallic machismo dies hard
English to French
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But the old Gallic machismo dies hard. Veteran left-liberal French journalist Jean-Francois Kahn originally dismissed the DSK case as a "troussage de domestique" – literally, skirt-lifting with a servant
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mais le bon vieux machisme gaulois a la vie dure
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Tony M
: 'Gallic' here means 'French', is it still OK to translate that as 'gaulois'? (It doesn't mean 'of ancient Gaul' / 'Gaulish') / Yes, it does in EN, but I wasn't so sure the FR use gaulois in the same way... cf. the expression 'Gallic charm'
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I think "Gallic" means symbolic of the French nation.
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FX Fraipont (X)
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Thanks, FX, Gallic minds...
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Isabelle Cluzel
: je ne suis pas sûre de "bon vieux", utilisé normalement dans un contexte positif. on ne dirait pas par exemple "le bon vieux racisme", sauf si celui qui en parle l'approuve
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merci. D'accord avec Victor.
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Victor Santos
: @Isabelle: "bon vieux" est souvent écrit avec ironie/distance, justement quand on dit "bon vieux raciste"
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merci !
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Andrew Bramhall
: Actually Tony, by translating it as 'gaulois' you're hitting on an old image of the French race which is supported by the context and after which a similarly long-established brand of cigarettes was named!
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merci !
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Pierre Souris
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merci !
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Jenny Dequick
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sktrans
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Comment: "merci"
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mais le bon vieux machisme gaulois a la vie dure
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Mais l'ancien machisme gaulois ne meurt pas aussi facilement
Il se peut qu'on aura besoin de quelque chose qui précède à laquelle on peut le comparer;
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Pierre Souris
: Comme le grec ancien "lancien machisme" voudrait dire qu'il n'est plus qu'un souvenir, sauf si l'on disait "déjà ancien", mais ce serait en l'occurrence trop lourd.
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mais le machisme à la gauloise a laissé des traces
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Andrew Bramhall
: Too much of a circumscription of the true English meaning IMHO;
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