May 4, 2021 10:16
3 yrs ago
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Deutsch term
Spengler
Deutsch > Englisch
Technik
Bauwesen/Hochbau/Tiefbau
Metalwork
A (Swiss) architect's text on a construction project lists those involved in the project. This includes this company, listed as the "Spengler":
https://e-mann.ch/Spenglerei/
It seems they do "Metallbekleidungen" in general, and specifically:
Anschlussbleche für Steil und Flachdächer
Metallbedachungen
Dachkontrollen / Rinnenreinigung
Abdichtungen mit Flüssigkunststoff
Kamineinfassungen
Regenwassernutzung
Does anyone know what this would be called in UK English? This does not seem to be plumber/roofer as is the answer generally on other forums. Metalworker seems to be a more general "making things out of metal", not specifically building-related metalwork. "Architectural metalwork" seems to be a thing; can anyone corroborate if this is an equivalent to Spengler?
Many thanks!!
https://e-mann.ch/Spenglerei/
It seems they do "Metallbekleidungen" in general, and specifically:
Anschlussbleche für Steil und Flachdächer
Metallbedachungen
Dachkontrollen / Rinnenreinigung
Abdichtungen mit Flüssigkunststoff
Kamineinfassungen
Regenwassernutzung
Does anyone know what this would be called in UK English? This does not seem to be plumber/roofer as is the answer generally on other forums. Metalworker seems to be a more general "making things out of metal", not specifically building-related metalwork. "Architectural metalwork" seems to be a thing; can anyone corroborate if this is an equivalent to Spengler?
Many thanks!!
Proposed translations
(Englisch)
4 +1 | architectural metalwork // architectural metalworking company | Barbara Schmidt, M.A. (X) |
4 +2 | roof sheeter and cladder | Lancashireman |
3 +2 | (building) tinsmith | Wendy Streitparth |
4 -1 | sheet metal worker | Kartik Isaac |
3 | roofer | Kim Metzger |
Proposed translations
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architectural metalwork // architectural metalworking company
https://www.jamesgilbertandson.com/architectural-metalwork-c...
https://www.architecturalmetalwork.co.uk/
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Note added at 49 Min. (2021-05-04 11:05:28 GMT)
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https://www.d-a.ch/da/services/sortiment/wassertechnik-gebae...
(this goes beyond sheet metal)
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Note added at 57 Min. (2021-05-04 11:13:33 GMT)
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on dict.cc it says
heater and ventilation fitter
heater and ventilation welder
building tinsmith
although this might not cover it entirely
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Note added at 57 Min. (2021-05-04 11:14:00 GMT)
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Then again, I'm no expert for British English
https://www.architecturalmetalwork.co.uk/
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Note added at 49 Min. (2021-05-04 11:05:28 GMT)
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https://www.d-a.ch/da/services/sortiment/wassertechnik-gebae...
(this goes beyond sheet metal)
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Note added at 57 Min. (2021-05-04 11:13:33 GMT)
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on dict.cc it says
heater and ventilation fitter
heater and ventilation welder
building tinsmith
although this might not cover it entirely
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Note added at 57 Min. (2021-05-04 11:14:00 GMT)
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Then again, I'm no expert for British English
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Steffen Walter
: This question is NOT about heating, ventilation, interiors etc. It specifically refers to building roofs (this trade is known as a "Dachspengler" in CH and AUT and "Dachklempner" in Germany)./Hab ich. Hier steht "Spengler" aber für "Dachspengler" - s.o.
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ok
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agree |
philgoddard
: But your dict.cc reference muddies the waters.
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Yes it does. You're right.
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agree |
Eleanore Strauss
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Thank you, Eleanore!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Many thanks everyone for all that very useful food for thought. I fear this might be one of those terms for which it is hard to find a culturally specific 'correct' equivalent; luckily the client absolved us all of any responsibility by themselves selecting "architectural metalworker", presumably because they work in architecture and this seems to encompass a similar range of responsibilities as they themselves have. In any case many thanks all!"
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27 Min.
sheet metal worker
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Steffen Walter
: Far too generic because it also includes heating, cooling and ventilation systems, which are ruled out by the context of this question, which refers to a "Dachspengler" (aka "Dachklempner" in DE) installing flashings etc. on building roofs.
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1 Stunde
(building) tinsmith
What are the activities of the building tinsmith?
Manufacture, fitting and repair of sheet metal parts and products from galvanised steel sheet, copper, aluminium or other material, cutting sheets to dimensions specified in drawings, sheet bending, reinforcing, drilling, assembling, riveting and soldering detailed parts into assemblies – manufacture of construction elements such as hooks, guttering, and drain pipes etc.), metal cladding of tanks, doors, repair of vessels, fitting and repair of sheet cladding for walls, cornices and balconies, – assembly and repair of gutters, vertical pipes and elbows, sheet cladding of chimneys in all types of roofs – sheet cladding of all types of elements used on the façade of a building, – fitting and repair of metal roof covering, production and repair of tin products of an artistic or stylish character (such as kettles, gargoyles, extension pieces according to design or to fit the original elements, – manufacture, fixing and repair of roof covering for roofs of special shape (pyramidal, conical, cupola, etc.)
Manufacture, fitting and repair of sheet metal parts and products from galvanised steel sheet, copper, aluminium or other material, cutting sheets to dimensions specified in drawings, sheet bending, reinforcing, drilling, assembling, riveting and soldering detailed parts into assemblies – manufacture of construction elements such as hooks, guttering, and drain pipes etc.), metal cladding of tanks, doors, repair of vessels, fitting and repair of sheet cladding for walls, cornices and balconies, – assembly and repair of gutters, vertical pipes and elbows, sheet cladding of chimneys in all types of roofs – sheet cladding of all types of elements used on the façade of a building, – fitting and repair of metal roof covering, production and repair of tin products of an artistic or stylish character (such as kettles, gargoyles, extension pieces according to design or to fit the original elements, – manufacture, fixing and repair of roof covering for roofs of special shape (pyramidal, conical, cupola, etc.)
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Steffen Walter
: This scope is more generic than the context of this question, which mainly refers to/focuses on sheet metal works, claddings etc. on roofs whilst not mentioning walls, balconies, tanks, doors etc./Yes, acc. to asker but their website focuses on roofing.
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Quote asker: It seems they do "Metallbekleidungen" in general," but thanks for not giving me a disagree!
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agree |
Cillie Swart
: I Agree !!
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Many thanks, Cillie
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agree |
thefastshow
: Me too, seems more common outside the UK though
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Thanks, thefastshow. Maybe its a little dated.
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roofer
Roofers typically do the following:
• Inspect problem roofs to determine the best way to repair them
• Measure roofs to calculate the quantities of materials needed
• Replace damaged or rotting joists or plywood
• Install vapor barriers or layers of insulation
• Install ventilation systems
• Install shingles, asphalt, metal, or other materials to make the roof weatherproof
• Align roofing materials with edges of the roof
• Cut roofing materials to fit around walls or vents
• Cover exposed nail or screw heads with roofing cement or caulk to prevent leakage
https://www.truity.com/career-profile/roofer
• Inspect problem roofs to determine the best way to repair them
• Measure roofs to calculate the quantities of materials needed
• Replace damaged or rotting joists or plywood
• Install vapor barriers or layers of insulation
• Install ventilation systems
• Install shingles, asphalt, metal, or other materials to make the roof weatherproof
• Align roofing materials with edges of the roof
• Cut roofing materials to fit around walls or vents
• Cover exposed nail or screw heads with roofing cement or caulk to prevent leakage
https://www.truity.com/career-profile/roofer
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7 Stunden
roof sheeter and cladder
They don't nail on tiles, so 'roofer' is too generic. They certainly don't work with tin.
"A roof sheeter or cladder fixes large weatherproof sheets of different material to roofs (sheeting) or walls (cladding)."
https://www.planitplus.net/JobProfiles/View/634/45
"A roof sheeter or cladder fixes large weatherproof sheets of different material to roofs (sheeting) or walls (cladding)."
https://www.planitplus.net/JobProfiles/View/634/45
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Steffen Walter
: This one nails it, as it were ;-)
15 Stunden
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agree |
thefastshow
: If the assignment is for publication in the UK, then this term should be used.
1 Tag 16 Stunden
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Discussion
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klempner
a sheet metal worker (for the outside of buildings)