Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

tra

English translation:

in/within

Added to glossary by Barbara Cochran, MFA
Jul 17, 2021 10:55
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Italian term

tra

Italian to English Bus/Financial General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters in a police report
I am translating some Italian conversations between two people regarding formal payments. The term I am uncertain of is: t+3 in this phrase: "i pagamenti avvengono t + 3" which I suppose means "tra tre giorni" meaning "within/in", but I haven't seen this way of expressing the word "tra" before. Could someone please confirm - or refute - this meaning as I have not been able to find an answer in any dictionary. Many thanks Isobel
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 in/within
Change log

Jul 17, 2021 11:59: writeaway changed "Field (write-in)" from "police report" to "in a police report"

Jul 21, 2021 03:56: Barbara Cochran, MFA Created KOG entry

Discussion

BdiL Jul 19, 2021:
As a native Italian speaker if I were the receiving party in the transaction I would definitely ask my counterparty: "Che vuol dire t+3?". Unless we had previously understood what is meant by "t" and what the time unit is attached to "3". If "t" is a date, it could mean within 20 November (hyp) plus a) 3 hours (ridiculous), b) 3 days, c) 3 weeks / months / years. The logical interpretation is that 3 should point out a maximum delay (probably in days) to the set date. However, nothing is for sure and EleoE's hint that t+3 might indicate instalments makes perfect sense. What is certain is the fact that "tra" should not be used as the headline: misleading, though it could be part of the answer. The standard in Italian would be something like "a 60 gg." or "a tre mesi" or "a un anno"; but you know that! Which leads to "in / within". You should further inquire the whereabouts of t+3. Maurizio
EleoE Jul 17, 2021:
I agree with Alison.
Without context I can only speculate, but it could mean that the payment is split in 4 parts: one at "termine" and 3 later.
Anyway, nothing here shows that 3 means "three days", why not three weeks or three months?
philgoddard Jul 17, 2021:
't' is used in mathematics and elsewhere to denote time, as in 't minus ten seconds'. "t plus three days" means "three days later", which is effectively the same as "within three days". I'm sure no one will complain if they're made in two days.
Alison Kennedy Jul 17, 2021:
How about term ... I'm sorry but if it was within 3 days, the term would be expressed differently, like entro. In this case you have +3 which in my understanding of Italian means "a term" plus 3 days. Tell me I'm wrong .. so according to me, it stands for termine. Try looking up Incoterms "t+3".
philgoddard Jul 17, 2021:
Your question should read "t+3" , not "tra". You're correct in assuming that it means "within three days".

Proposed translations

+1
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in/within

Peer comment(s):

agree Cillie Swart : Yeah, makes sense
1 day 21 hrs
Thank you, Cillie.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks for responding to my query and for confirming the intended meaning. Phil and others have made it clear that tra tre giorni is not the origin of t + 3, and I appreciate this clarification. Thanks to everyone for contributing your insights "
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