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Glossary entry

Catalan term or phrase:

Sala Cuina vs. Cuina Independent

English translation:

open kitchen/dining room vs. separate kitchen

Added to glossary by Hinara
Mar 8, 2016 06:36
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Catalan term

Sala Cuina vs. Cuina Independent

Catalan to English Other Real Estate Certificate of Occupancy
On a certificate of occupancy for an apartment/flat in Barcelona, in the section under

NUM. PECES/DETAILS DE L'HABITAGE

SALA
HABITACIONS
CUINA INDEPENDENT
CAMBRES HIGIENIQUES
SALA CUINA
ALTRES

Does it have 2 kitchens? What's the difference?
Proposed translations (English)
4 living room/kitchen (or kitchen-living room) vs. kitchen

Discussion

Hinara (asker) Mar 8, 2016:
Montse and Helena... Thank you both for your help.
Helena Chavarria Mar 8, 2016:
@Montse That's what I thought. I think the majority of Catalan people don't have separate dining and living rooms, like you and me. However, some people prefer to eat in the kitchen, but if their kitchen is too small perhaps they can turn the 'galeria' into an eating area.

The 'galerias' I can remember seeing in different flats have led off the main bedroom, the hall or the kitchen. It depends on the lay-out.
Montse Ballesteros Mar 8, 2016:
Is it a holiday or short-term apartment? I don't know, but looking at the list of items, it feels like it could be a sort of questionnaire. It is strange to use "cambres higièniques" instead of "banys" or "lavabos".
Montse Ballesteros Mar 8, 2016:
dining room Well, perhaps the "sala" implies not only living room but also dining room. My own flat doesn't have a dining room and I use my living room as a dining room too.
Hinara (asker) Mar 8, 2016:
Thank you... for your help.
Helena Chavarria Mar 8, 2016:
I think I would describe it as 'Room leading off kitchen'. There are numerous references for 'reception or utilty or dining room leading off kitchen'. I suppose each flat owner decides how they want to use the room.
Hinara (asker) Mar 8, 2016:
Thank you for asking... Helena. Yes, why not include in "altres" a pantry. And how can a flat have 2 kitchens but no dining room to speak of? I'll look at your link.
Helena Chavarria Mar 8, 2016:
thinking about it now, perhaps it does refer to a room that leads off the kitchen.

https://www.google.es/search?q=galeria en un pis&rlz=1C1CHWA...
Helena Chavarria Mar 8, 2016:
Hinara I've since asked three Catalans (two of them own a restaurant) and none of them knew what it meant. If it's a flat, and not a house, then I think 'pantry' would be included in 'altres', though I've never seen a flat in Catalonia that had a pantry, and I've lived here since 1977!

A 'galeria' (interior terrace/balcony) is quite common. It's where the residents install their washing machine, tumble drier, ironing board and perhaps non perishable food and other items: cans, jars, bottles, toilet paper, etc.
Hinara (asker) Mar 8, 2016:
Dining room? Helena, I thought it could be a dining room because otherwise there isn't one listed, although a pantry sounds like a good guess. Montse, your idea sound plausible but could it have two kitchens and no dining room to speak of?
Montse Ballesteros Mar 8, 2016:
I would rather understand it as an open kitchen as opposed to a closed kitchen (cuina independent).

http://www.houzz.com/ideabooks/14784144/list/open-vs-closed-...
Helena Chavarria Mar 8, 2016:
Either that or a pantry.
Helena Chavarria Mar 8, 2016:
Isn't it a fancy way of saying 'dining room'?

Proposed translations

10 hrs
Selected

living room/kitchen (or kitchen-living room) vs. kitchen

After doing some research, now I know what you mean. It is a "certificat d'habitabilitat", so the apartment/flat does not necessarily have to have all those parts/pieces. This means it can be an apartment with a "sala" (living room) and a "kitchen" or both of them combined "sala-cuina" (living room/kitchen".

...com és sabut, el decret estableix els requisits mínims per a la obtenció de la cèdula d'habitabilitat, i aquesta tan sols es pot obtenir si l'immoble disposa del programa mínim d'habitatge, compost per una sala, una cuina (o bé una sala-cuina) i un bany. Per tant, no és imprescindible que l'immoble disposi de cap habitació, de manera que si les habitacions d'un hipotètic habitatge no compleixen amb el requisit dels 40 cm² de ventilació, si la sala, la cuina i el bany compleixen amb els requisits mínims respectius, l'habitatge obtindrà igualment la cèdula, amb l'única conseqüència que la peça sense els 40 cm² de ventilació no computarà com a dormitori, sinó com a "altra peça".

http://www.cedulahabitabilitat.net/blog/n0305-nou-decret-hab...

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g18860...

http://www.appartement-hotes-folie-oberkampf.com/en/sejour.p...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTlPdAjDtDY

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Note added at 11 hrs (2016-03-08 17:37:31 GMT)
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Sorry, I meant "cèdula d'habitabilitat", not "certificate d'habitabilitat".
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