Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

tiefgestaffelt

English translation:

with a complex series of [deep/broad] [fortifications]

Added to glossary by Helen Shiner
May 16, 2009 09:14
15 yrs ago
German term

tiefgestaffelt

German to English Science Geography
"Der Projekt untersucht vielschichtige Aspekte der 155 km langen, tiefgestaffelten Grenzanlagen rund um West-Berlin."
Context is a DFG-sponsored project to document the history of the Berlin Wall.
Haven't the foggiest what this might mean here.
TIA
Change log

May 18, 2009 15:49: Steffen Walter changed "Field" from "Other" to "Science" , "Field (specific)" from "General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters" to "Geography"

May 30, 2009 07:17: Helen Shiner Created KOG entry

May 30, 2009 07:18: Helen Shiner changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/882779">Helen Shiner's</a> old entry - "tiefgestaffelt"" to ""with a complex series of deep [fortifications]""

Discussion

Jonathan MacKerron (asker) May 17, 2009:
thanks Kprhed this was also one of the first things I had thought of, perhaps something like "physical evolution"?
Kphred May 16, 2009:
Layers of meaning A couple of points: The Berlin Wall went through 4 incarnations between 1961 and 1975, starting as a wire fence, and finishing as the wall we are all familiar with. Even as late as 1988-89, parts of the wall were still wire fence. Furthermore, there was the 100m no mans' land, with tank barriers, bunkers and watchtowers. The wall itself was 155km. It consisted of many layers, both chronologically, and geographically, but not really anything underground (except maybe parts of the 20 or so bunkers), except in places around the canals, where beds of nails and barbed-wire were installed. I think you might want to consider the historical layers. Words like "extensive" and "complex" may have more to do with this than "deep". Numerous articles refer to gestaffelte Bauweise having to do with the layers of buildings or structures added with successive generations...
Helen Shiner May 16, 2009:
Hello again could you rewrite the sentence a little and say something like the 155km long Berlin Wall with its complex series of deep fortifications.
Jonathan MacKerron (asker) May 16, 2009:
multi-layered sounds like a good place start
Helen Shiner May 16, 2009:
Hi Jonathan I imagine that it is referring to the depth of the wall construction/complex and saying that it was multi-layered, and that the 'layers' varied, I presume. Though how to put that into sophisticated EN, I have no idea.

Proposed translations

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with its complex series of deep [fortifications]

or something along those lines....

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or 'wide' if 'deep' sounds like they extend into the earth!
Note from asker:
Thanks Helen, I too am not sure if they are talking about the width of the swath, or the sophistication of the border installations therein, nevertheless your suggestion sounds just fine
Peer comment(s):

agree mill2 : far-reaching instead of deep or wide perhaps?//Isabel makes a good point
1 hr
Yes, or 'broad span of' instead of 'complex series of'. There are probably many good ways of saying this, but my brain feels rather foggy today. Thanks, mill.
agree Isabel Severing : I think 'complex series of (fortifications) already captures the 'tiefgestaffelt' - no need for deep or wide or anything. Nice solution, I have to say.
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Thanks, Isabel - it feels a bit like a cop-out to me really.
agree Ingeborg Gowans (X) : yes, having lived in Berlin at the time of the wall I can only agree to that
2 hrs
Thanks, Ingeborg - and the damage is still all so visible now
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deeply staggered....

...the project investigates multi-layered aspects of the 155 km long, deeply staggered (.....closely structured / tightly arranged.....) border facilities around West Berlin.......

.....just a shot....!
Peer comment(s):

neutral Helen Shiner : 'deeply staggered' is a problem in that it sounds like an emotional response.
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neutral mill2 : agree with Helen
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arranged in depth of the country

like this

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of the city
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