Off topic: Saudade Thread poster: Thierry LOTTE
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Thierry LOTTE 
Local time: 20:40
Member (2001)
English to French
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Dear Prozanians,
On Friday evening I am leaving for Lisboa on a sentimental journey with my girl.
At this occasion, we really would like to spend one evening or two in a good “Fado” cabaret or place. Last time we went to Lisboa we found there a lot of spots but we were quite frightened by the “barkers” standing everywhere. That was really sounding like a tourist trap and, for the one we tried, it really was.
Would any Fado Aficionado recommend me ... See more Dear Prozanians,
On Friday evening I am leaving for Lisboa on a sentimental journey with my girl.
At this occasion, we really would like to spend one evening or two in a good “Fado” cabaret or place. Last time we went to Lisboa we found there a lot of spots but we were quite frightened by the “barkers” standing everywhere. That was really sounding like a tourist trap and, for the one we tried, it really was.
Would any Fado Aficionado recommend me one or two places?
We also would need the address of a good (and cheap) seafood restaurant (clams, oysters and so on…).
Thanks in advance for the help you might bring to two Fado lovers and please kindly do not hesitate to consult me when traveling in Barcelona.
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| | | | | My usual choices. | Jun 16, 2003 |
Fado - "Senhor Vinho": http://www.restsrvinho.com/
The best Fado's singers are here.
Seafood - "Restaurante RAMIRO".
Address: Avenida Almirante Reis
Area: Igreja dos Anjos (Church)and Intendente.
The best seafood in Lisbon City.
If you need anything else, please contact me: 21 385 4174 (home) or 91 458 3732 (mobile)
And have a nice stay!
Gabriela
Thierry LOTTE wrote:
Dear Prozanians,
On Friday evening I am leaving for Lisboa on a sentimental journey with my girl.
At this occasion, we really would like to spend one evening or two in a good “Fado” cabaret or place. Last time we went to Lisboa we found there a lot of spots but we were quite frightened by the “barkers” standing everywhere. That was really sounding like a tourist trap and, for the one we tried, it really was.
Would any Fado Aficionado recommend me one or two places?
We also would need the address of a good (and cheap) seafood restaurant (clams, oysters and so on…).
Thanks in advance for the help you might bring to two Fado lovers and please kindly do not hesitate to consult me when traveling in Barcelona.
Friendly
| | | | José Luis Villanueva-Senchuk (X)
Argentina
Local time: 15:40
English to Spanish
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| Do you like cod fish??? | Jun 16, 2003 |
Hola,
You had a local answer already so I might be way off but...from my humble experience:
Joao de Grao in the Baixa is great. The cod there was Langosta Vermehla was a neat experience - not expensive (round 10 Euros). Doca 6 is a little expensive but the octopus, if you are by the terrace, will taste like a piece of heaven.
El Conventual was a treat ... See more
| | | | | Nice choices, José Luis! | Jun 16, 2003 |
... but when we are in love, we usually hate cod-fish...
All restaurants you suggested are really fine.
I will try "Lagosta Vermelha" next time, the only restaurant unknown to me.
Thanks a lot!
Gabriela
José Luis Villanueva-Senchuk wrote: Hola, You had a local answer already so I might be way off but...from my humble experience: Joao de Grao in the Baixa is great. The cod there was Langosta Vermehla was a neat experience - not expensive (round 10 Euros). Doca 6 is a little expensive but the octopus, if you are by the terrace, will taste like a piece of heaven. El Conventual was a treat . O Nobre is run by a couple who are worth meeting. It is expensive but if you want to celebrate your B-day in style, treat yourself and your partner to any of these two  Take good care and enjoy!!!! JL [Edited at 2003-06-16 19:28]
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| | Todd Field
United States
Local time: 12:40
Member
Portuguese to English
| Ai, quem me dera!!! | Jun 18, 2003 |
SAUDADE,, yes...
Lots of it when you love Lisbon, but live in Colorado. If only you could take a town in Portugal (cafes, little restaurants, people actually in the street) and combine it with the big wilderness of here (Saudi Arabia to Switzerland in an hour's drive), you may just have Heaven on Earth.
For real fado, I recommend:
Parreirinha de Alfama
Beco Espírito Santo, 1
Lisboa
21 886 82 09 phone
It's right behind the ... See more SAUDADE,, yes...
Lots of it when you love Lisbon, but live in Colorado. If only you could take a town in Portugal (cafes, little restaurants, people actually in the street) and combine it with the big wilderness of here (Saudi Arabia to Switzerland in an hour's drive), you may just have Heaven on Earth.
For real fado, I recommend:
Parreirinha de Alfama
Beco Espírito Santo, 1
Lisboa
21 886 82 09 phone
It's right behind the Sé (just tell yor taxi driver this and you'll get there). Make sure you show up after 9 PM and stay at least until after midnight. That's when it gets good.
For a twist, check out this really cool local's spot in São Pedro de Sintra (right in Sintra), which does hard-core Portuguese Celtic and traditional music:
Taverna dos Trovadores
Pç. D. Fernando II - S. Pedro Sintra
Tell them the crazy American guitarist sent you, the guy who's Fred's friend, and you will be in for a treat. If the owner (Fernando) offers you a 50 euro bottle of wine from his cellar, consider taking it... worth every cent. Recite this ditty to him and he may give you a discount:
"À noite na Taverna dos Trovadores
cantigas proibidas e pensadores
o tabaco é permitido, há vinho clandestino
o ponto de encontro árabe-latino"
As far as seafood, it's hard to miss anywhere in Portugal (of course), but the best I ever had was in Ponto Final in Almada, a quick ferry ride across the Tejo, just a couple steps off the dock (follow the main street and you'll see it on the first block). Last time I was there, there were a total of five tables in the whole place, and the best "sardinas" I've ever had in my life. Look for the old accordion player after 9 PM... I hope he's still alive.
Enjoy some for us landlocked folks!
Boa sorte,
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Local time: 13:40
English to Portuguese
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| Fado's place | Jun 18, 2003 |
Thierry LOTTE wrote:
Dear Prozanians,
On Friday evening I am leaving for Lisboa on a sentimental journey with my girl.
At this occasion, we really would like to spend one evening or two in a good “Fado” cabaret or place. Last time we went to Lisboa we found there a lot of spots but we were quite frightened by the “barkers” standing everywhere. That was really sounding like a tourist trap and, for the one we tried, it really was.
Would any Fado Aficionado recommend me one or two places?
We also would need the address of a good (and cheap) seafood restaurant (clams, oysters and so on…).
Thanks in advance for the help you might bring to two Fado lovers and please kindly do not hesitate to consult me when traveling in Barcelona.
Friendly
Have a good time in the old Lisbon. In my days, once upon a long time ago, when I was young and used to roam the streets of Lisbon, my friend and I used to go to a place called "Ritz Night Club", a well known place in all of Lisboa. But since that was in sixties, I don't know if the place is still standing there. I think if you search for night life in the internet, I am sure, you will find plenty of beautiful places throughout Lisbon, for you to go and enjoy a nice and very romantic evening: I still remember the sardines, the "bacalhau na braza" the fados performed by Amalia Rodrigues. Cheira a Lisboa... e tenha umas boas ferias!
Felicidades!
Regards!
Ciao!
Bye!
Hasta Luego!
| | | | Thierry LOTTE
Local time: 20:40
Member (2001)
English to French
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TOPIC STARTER
Thanks to all of you !
I really do appreciate !
The high reputation of the Portugues for their hospitality and amability is definitely not a legend neither a topic !
But, this, I already knew it.
Now, we have directions to spend more than 10 days in Lisboa : we can spend only 3 nights.
This will be an excellent reason to come back there later on, because Lisboa is Lisboa and when you goes here once in your life, you always wish to ... See more Thanks to all of you !
I really do appreciate !
The high reputation of the Portugues for their hospitality and amability is definitely not a legend neither a topic !
But, this, I already knew it.
Now, we have directions to spend more than 10 days in Lisboa : we can spend only 3 nights.
This will be an excellent reason to come back there later on, because Lisboa is Lisboa and when you goes here once in your life, you always wish to come back as soon as possible:
Because of the Town, because of the Portugueses.
Thanks once more and best regards to all of you.
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Thierry LOTTE
Local time: 20:40
Member (2001)
English to French
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TOPIC STARTER | So sad to be back | Jun 27, 2003 |
Dear All!
I am now back from Lisboa and I already feel nostalgic (Saudade ?) and I am already dreaming about my next sentimental journey there (with the same girl of course…).
I would like to express here my best and sincere thanks to all the ones who provided me these tips and nice addresses: unfortunately the 4 days and three nights that I have spent in Lisboa did not allow me to enjoy all them all.
The ones where I dropped on were fantastic and I am su... See more Dear All!
I am now back from Lisboa and I already feel nostalgic (Saudade ?) and I am already dreaming about my next sentimental journey there (with the same girl of course…).
I would like to express here my best and sincere thanks to all the ones who provided me these tips and nice addresses: unfortunately the 4 days and three nights that I have spent in Lisboa did not allow me to enjoy all them all.
The ones where I dropped on were fantastic and I am sure that the ones I missed for lack of time too… Another good reason to come back ASAP !
Obregado ! ▲ Collapse
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